RadioNZ Interview

It was great to speak with Kathryn Ryan on National Radio's Nine to Noon show this morning, in spite of my trepidation that talking about our Whiteness is not always a popular topic! I appreciated Kathryn's insight and grasp of the issues facing our Māori and Pasifika learners in our education system. Although the show began with a focus on our teacher-training needing a 'shake-up', I hope I was able to get across that, although teacher training is certainly part of the problem, and our teacher training perpetuates White thinking in our practice as teachers and leaders, what we need is a fundamental rethink about how we educate our children. 

Listen to the podcast here